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| Wand6122360 |
Date: Tuesday, 03-Mar-15, 5:50 PM | Message # 76 |
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DSP, you captured my thoughts perfectly. I especially agree with comparing the storyline to real life. There are no fixed principles as to how a real life should proceed. To me, the ending was a success because the show was able to convince me that the evolution of Jane and Lisbon was real. As for the baby scene, I think it was important because it showed just how far Jane had gone in his return to life. He was truly overjoyed by the news, and did not display any of the existential trauma of his earlier years. |
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| June |
Date: Tuesday, 03-Mar-15, 5:56 PM | Message # 77 |
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DS, I couldn't agree more with you. That's life.
Message edited by June - Tuesday, 03-Mar-15, 6:00 PM |
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| AgentM |
Date: Tuesday, 03-Mar-15, 10:18 PM | Message # 78 |
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I hear what you're saying DS...I know real life can throw up some cliches...(my own life included!) I just believe that there were too many for the last two episodes - especially the last one. I know I called Jane 'wimpy and wet' - and I stand by that for some of the scenes - but I do also know how courageous he has been and how difficult it has been for him to learn to love and trust again (believe me, my own life has run parallel to his on that score). I just really didn't like the longing looks that he and Lisbon kept exchanging - previously I loved it when they didn't have to say anything to communicate feelings but somehow it changed when they were put together as a couple.
I'm not romantically dead, as some may perceive from my comments - I just hate it when favourite shows get rail-roaded into following the same path of predictability -and it seems to happen mostly to the American shows that I've been a fan of. Just once, I would like the writers to go against the grain and not just go along with the demands of networks and an audience who think they want the fairytale ending.
I am absolutely gutted that they had to take this route with The Mentalist, and I blame CBS a lot for what became of probably the best TV show to grace our screens in a very long time. At the moment, it feels as if the last season has ruined the whole show for me - and that is a painful confession to make - it may be a while before I can watch from the beginning again, now that I know how it ends. I know that sounds a bit melodramatic - but that was how much I loved the show...it was a passion. I fear that the enjoyment I had from watching the sparks and the tension between Jane and Lisbon in those earlier seasons has now been tainted.
I know so many of you are satisfied, even contented, with the ending and I'm happy for you in that you have been rewarded with the outcome you desired and respect your thoughts on that - sadly, it just wasn't what I desired.  |
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| DS_Pallas |
Date: Tuesday, 03-Mar-15, 10:34 PM | Message # 79 |
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Hey dear M, it's just a show after all…
I know you're not romantically dead, I understand what you mean, and I agree about what you say about american TV shows. Yes we can blame CBS and WB, and those f*cking ratings.
I'm sorry you were disappointed, really, because it proves how much you have loved this show and those characters.
It's true amazing how we can become attached to fictional characters!
Maybe you can write your own version of the ending you would have like to watch on your screen? please, don't say you'll never write TM fan fictions anymore? |
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| Tina |
Date: Tuesday, 03-Mar-15, 10:50 PM | Message # 80 |
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That's what I thought too AgentM. DS made a good suggestion
Maybe you could write the ending you wanted for TM. It is strange how attached one can become on fictional characters. I know that I could have never recovered from a sad ending with one of them dying or seeing Jane in tragedy. This would have ruined it for me and I could have never really enjoyed watching TM again. I hope you will keep on loving Patrick Jane....even if you are not happy with the ending. For me it was just perfect even though I really wasn't a shipper til season 6. It just felt right for me in the end, even when I was angry with Lisbon quite some times ...but I would love to read your version of the end. |
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| kim |
Date: Tuesday, 03-Mar-15, 11:58 PM | Message # 81 |
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Agent M- i agree with you on the point that the network influence in the show was heavy handed. I think that certainly network executives dictated the direction in the end. They left the show hanging at the end of last season very late before the renewal. I think that it put a big burden on the writers to come up with a moving and compelling short season. CBS had a great thing going in the Mentalist and they let it slip away because of some arbitrary ratings in the US market. Ultimately though tv is a business and the fans don't get to be satisfied all the time.
I am very happy with the ending. It would have been very hard for me to go back and watch the shows again if it had ended differently. I am feeling so sad for you. I hope that you can go back and watch earlier episodes at some point. I would also love to read some fan fiction if you were to write it! |
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| AgentM |
Date: Wednesday, 04-Mar-15, 8:31 PM | Message # 82 |
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Thanks, guys  I know it's only a TV show, but there is so little decent stuff to watch on TV these days that I tend to get really attached to the good ones. I still love the character of Patrick Jane - like I would love a brother who may be in a relationship with someone I don't approve of! I won't turn my back on him or disown him, but I may give him the silent treatment for a short time lol. 
I haven't discounted the possibility of writing my own version - I most likely will but I have a few other Mentalist fanfics to complete before I get to that point! I'm still currently working on the one that follows on from 'To Catch A Red Eye' (the one where Jane finally gets Red John - my version). I haven't done a re-boot as Rigsby and Van Pelt are still around, as is the CBI! The only problem I have at the moment is time to do it! Fear not, my lovely friends, I'm hopeful that my Mentalist Mojo will return...After all, they do say 'absence makes the heart grow fonder...'  |
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| Tina |
Date: Wednesday, 04-Mar-15, 9:27 PM | Message # 83 |
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I'm looking forward to reading your TM fanfic, AgentM, but also to a new book. Please let us know as soon as you publish something again!
Maybe...someday...Simon could act and direct a book written by you. Please please invite me to a set visit then  |
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| kim |
Date: Sunday, 08-Mar-15, 7:39 PM | Message # 84 |
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Another article about the finale: http://masterherald.com/euphori....24 |
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| Tina |
Date: Monday, 09-Mar-15, 9:00 AM | Message # 85 |
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Thank you kim
Nice article. |
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| Fran |
Date: Sunday, 15-Mar-15, 11:57 AM | Message # 86 |
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Thanks to BasqueCountryEuskeraz & @Aleee_O
http://teleprograma.fotogramas.es/series-....talista
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| June |
Date: Thursday, 19-Mar-15, 7:21 PM | Message # 87 |
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Next Wednesday is the day, the last episode of The Mentalist in Spain. I've watched the finale more than once but for me, that means that there will be not The Mentalist anymore, no more waiting for the next episode promo, it's done. |
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| Juney |
Date: Sunday, 03-May-15, 4:57 PM | Message # 88 |
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I still only felt that they were very good friends not lovers (just like Simon and Robin)- I didn't feel any sexual chemistry between them at all. Having said that I loved his smile of happiness at the end. As you will have guessed I was never a shipper.
By the way did she ever get that engagement ring? I thought we were going to see him putting it on her finger, but we didn't see a wedding ring exchange either. I wonder if that scene ended up on the cutting room floor.
Message edited by Juney - Sunday, 03-May-15, 5:01 PM |
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| Tassie |
Date: Sunday, 03-May-15, 7:12 PM | Message # 89 |
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I wasn't a shipper either Juney, and wished they had just remained as dear friends and colleagues. His smile was so joyful, but couldn't help wondering if it was because he was free to do something different in his life. I was sad that TM ended, but mostly because I wouldn't be seeing Simon on a regular basis. |
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| Juney |
Date: Tuesday, 05-May-15, 3:37 PM | Message # 90 |
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Quote Tassie (  ) His smile was so joyful, but couldn't help wondering if it was because he was free to do something different in his life.
I wondered that too Tassie. It's been part of his life for so long that it could just be relief. Although he will now have to think about earning and putting the boys through school, university etc. |
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